does anyone know if the new elders' manual addresses attempted suicide?
in the previous manual, it was seen as a potential judicial matter, which is absolutely ridiculous.
have they changed it?
HOOBOY use scriptures and "Bible based literature", and wait for at least a day or two before resuming. That really ought to help.
Last suicide I knew of wasn't allowed a KH memorial, but a brother did give a talk at the venue. I think this one was caused by the pressure to pioneer, go to bethel, and the dating "guidlines" (if you go on a date you gotta marry).
There is probably the old self murder taboo in the background.
i've been having a conversation with a young jw on twitter and have, once again, come up against beliefs that do not match up with official watchtower doctrine.
if you like you can read the full thread here (you'll need to click on some comments to open it all up).. anyway the upshot is that this jw, and many like her, believe that only truly wicked people will be killed at armageddon - not innocent babies and children or anyone who "didn't know better" perhaps because they didn't get a witness.
it's as though they cannot accept the obvious injustice of jehovah's morality.. this jw teenager believes that all these non-jw's who survive armageddon will get their chance to prove their loyalty during the 1000 year reign of christ - again, not a watchtower teaching.. i don't really have a question to ask, this is just an observation.
How can any of us keep up on doctrine? Even if I believed the 2 generation crap I couldn't explain it at a door. That and some other things that keep changing, but are "right" would confuse anyone
blondie’s first thoughts wt study (december 2018, pages 10-12).
excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .
and when we do this, we also honor jehovah.
I notice they fixate on HIV, not the other diseases. And at the same time they are against the papilloma vaccine, even though it could protect someone marrying a convert. There are certainly good things to be said about fidelity though.
I know of a sister who was pretty much forced to stay with her husband (the old winning them through conduct and being extra obedient), sure enough he molested her (not his) daughter; but they kept the marriage intact. I was surprised she even talked to any of us who were still in.
I was waiting for the fine examples set by David to be brought out. We did have the sister who married, divorced, married on and on comment a lot. I guess she is an expert
what i caught was how they were baffled by having to be in "the world".
then any and all help came from friends offering money, food, apartments, jobs.
can't anyone see how they people are used up and then discarded?.
What I caught was how they were baffled by having to be in "the world". Then any and all help came from friends offering money, food, apartments, jobs. Can't anyone see how they people are used up and then discarded?
i notice that several of the congs i've been to seem to have a majority of the male roles performed by older men.
very few young men are wanting to be ms or elders etc.
it also seems like very few young people are being pioneers either.. would you agree with this?
I think there are a lot of PIMI who are almost PIMO as they look at some of the "odd" things like skirts only, beards, no schooling, no overtime. Add in the elders who will always have more experience looking down on whippersnappers and things are stagnant.
Add in the CO bragging about all the things and travels he has done, a lot of people can see he hasn't ever paid his own way and resent it.
the part this in the midweek meeting had a lot of questions about what a goad is.
probably 10 of 15 minutes spent on it.
and they said it was a stick with a metal point, which i doubt what with metal being costly, and a sharpened stick would do as well.. maybe next week we can learn about whips as in "we will keep whipping you until morale improves".
The part this in the midweek meeting had a LOT of questions about what a goad is. Probably 10 of 15 minutes spent on it. And they said it was a stick with a metal point, which I doubt what with metal being costly, and a sharpened stick would do as well.
Maybe next week we can learn about whips as in "we will keep whipping you until morale improves". Or how about the kindly yoke and light load. For advanced students there can be 6 and 8 letter words.
anyone else have the "local needs" about security?
and then a meeting to be held for all brothers about same?
you can guess the content: no physical confrontation, no guns, (club ok?
anyone else have the "local needs" about security? And then a meeting to be held for all brothers about same? You can guess the content: no physical confrontation, no guns, (club OK?), overwhelm them with numbers. 5 minutes material filling an hour meeting if they follow the usual format.
I know a few sisters who are bigger and tougher than most brothers, maybe they should have been invited.
i hear that a hall was burned down in washington state.
was shot at numerous times.
is the wbts that desperate to merge congo's and collect insurance money and now the land has no building on it the land can be sold with no demo expense.
FAKE NEWS We were told that our source of news should be the JW.org site, not to believe anything the world puts out. And it ain't there. So......
this was the reply i was given by our coordinator at our recent kingdom hall security meeting.. he explained that they aren't allowed to buy any appliances or do any changes to the kingdom hall without branch approval.
"we put in our letter that a video security system could be purchased for around $600 locally and an app could be downloaded for the attendants to monitor the cameras what's going onoutside.
" they said;" such a system would not be needed in our area of the country, if standard protocols of security are followed as outline by the branch.
Lots of halls have security cameras. The objection is probably that it is not an apporved system; meaning it has to be bought from an approved supplier and installed by him, for several thousand $$$ (with kickback).
several years ago unless i was dreaming i read a watchtower quotation that effectively said that they would execute us as disfellowshipped individuals if the law would allow.. was i dreaming?.
It may not be in print recently, but I have heard brothers say as much.
